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    Consoles and PC Gaming...

    So as some of you know, I recently put together a new PC. It's been a long time and I was due for something "modern". Since my old PC had seen better days...

    Although it was never my intent to build a "gaming" pc, since I gave up on that rat race, I used gaming as a benchmark to make sure that whatever I built would keep me happy for at least the next 4 or 5 years with little upgrading, in terms of applications and general computing are concerned.

    After being away from the PC gaming scene for at least 3 or 4 years,I realize that consoles have really closed the gap on PC gaming. It makes sense since console gaming has flourished over the last 3 or 4 years, while PC gaming seems to be in deep trouble based on sales (which many attribute to piracy).

    So after building my PC, I decided to to try out a few games where I could compare the PC version of games I'd played on consoles. Surprisingly enough, the differences seem to be more subtle than I thought. I've heard the stories about how modern PC gaming "graphics" could blow away modern consoles out of the water, and I have to say, that's not necessarily the case.

    The first game I tried, which is something I've been playing on the 360 for almost 2 years now was COD4. Aside from higher resolution (slightly sharper image since the 360 version seems to be 720p) there really isn't that much of a difference. I actually prefer the 360 version. The games themselves are better organized in Live and everyone uses com. I got the feeling while playing on PC that I was playing with a bunch of bots, since there wasn't that much interaction and you have to pick a game from a endless list of servers (many of which are empty).... No after game lobby, you go from one game to the next, etc. On the positive for the PC version, the mods are actually pretty friggin' cool. Some of the mods I played included paintball (funny as hell) and Aliens which is an Aliens vs. Humans game, Aliens have laser guns and look like... Aliens.

    Second game I tried was the HAWX demo. I figured surely there would be an advantage here for the PC version since it takes advantage of DX10 (tried it before nuking my windows 7 install). I was pretty disappointed to realize that it is identical to the 360 version. No difference whatsoever. If anything the PC version was annoying since the game calls the user to push 360 controller buttons on several occasions. It asks me to push "A" (round green button on the 360 controller) when I push "A" nothing happens, push enter on the keyboard, vioala! Either way no noticeable difference.

    Third game was COD2. I bought a copy years ago on Direct2Drive and was pleasantly surprised to find that my account was still active and I still owned the game. Multiplayer on PC is still active mods and all. The 360 version has been dead for a long time, so there's not much else to compare since the graphics are identical on the two games. COD2 was a launch title for the 360 so it looks very good.

    Lastly, and this isn't a comparison since there's no console release of it, Crysis: Warhead. I bought the thing purely on curiosity. Sure enough if I turned everything on, my PC would slow down quite a bit. Reduced the resolution and everything became playable. Game is beautiful, but I'm not sure this couldn't have been done on a console. As a matter of fact, I think Far Cry 2 looks "cooler" than Crysis for the most part. BTW, Crysis is a game with no soul. It's basically a tech demo, visual eye candy, that's it.

    FPS and RTS controls on PC are always better than playing with a game pad. But after a couple of years on a gamepad, I've gotten used to the game pad and feel comfortable with it. Controls aside I have to say that aside from the occasional title, I think I'll continue to do the bulk of my gaming on the Wii and 360. The ease of use and pick up and play nature of the Wii along with the 360's Live component make the Wii-60 a great combination for my tastes.

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    The only games that are coming to the PC I am currently interested in are Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2. When those come out it's time for me to build a new PC for gaming. Currently my PC is mostly used for internet and work. Occasionally I will play Civ 4 which is the only PC game I have played much in the last few years.

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    PC gaming used to be great because it was a completely different world from console gaming. Its not alluring now and I see no point in paying $4000 to play the same games on a smaller screen.

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    Great mini report there. PC gaming really doesn't have the same soul that it used to. I plan to upgrade my system soon, but it's mostly so I can do some video work and make newer versions of photoshop and illustrator work better. The nice side effect is that I'll be able to enjoy Diablo 3, play some COD4 with my pc-only friend, and make some of those meaner titles on mame run better.
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    Well, it doesn't take $4000 to put a great gaming PC together anymore, though it's still a lot more expensive than the average console. And PC's are as capable of connecting to an HDTV as consoles are, so the small screen thing isn't quite correct either.

    If you're going to compare "console port" games like Call of Duty, etc. you can expect you won't find much of a difference at all. I still read PC Gamer magazine from time to time and they do a good job of pointing out which games truly take advantage of DX10 and the other goodies PC's have to offer. The real problem though, is that consoles have become the least common denominator in gaming, and they are the sweet spot to shoot for in terms of development costs versus return on investment on the business side of things.

    The funny thing is, when you talk to a true PC gamer, they look down on 360/PS3 the way 360/PS3 gamers look down on Wii, claiming that gaming has been "dumbed down" to cater to the console-owning masses hehehe. I'm sure that sounds about as stupid to a 360/PS3 gamer as the silly criticisms they throw on Wii sounds to Wii gamers hehehe.

    I have a soft spot for PC gaming, and I hope it makes a comeback at some point. Not because of the graphics/horsepower side of things, but because PC gaming really does (or did) represent a true blank canvas for game developers at any level to create their games and find an audience without the need for the marketing and hype machine that seems to drive the console side of the industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nectar View Post
    and I see no point in paying $4000 to play the same games on a smaller screen.
    That Myth has been dead for a long time now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcadeNut View Post
    That Myth has been dead for a long time now....
    indeed i just walked a friend thru a new rig whic has the most powerful graphics card on the market and with a 30'' screen it came to 2000$
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    What is killing the PC market is the fact that you don't need to do all the things that PCs have to do such as install and etc. The console market is slowly becoming nothing but prebuilt computers.

    The reason most games don't look so differnt from 360 is the fact that they are the same game just with with a differnt control set up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Templar View Post
    What is killing the PC market is the fact that you don't need to do all the things that PCs have to do such as install and etc. The console market is slowly becoming nothing but prebuilt computers.

    The reason most games don't look so differnt from 360 is the fact that they are the same game just with with a differnt control set up.
    Same way as I feel, I also think that its how developers made fps games easy to play with a game pad and how they made online gaming easier on consoles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entexman View Post
    The only games that are coming to the PC I am currently interested in are Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2. When those come out it's time for me to build a new PC for gaming. Currently my PC is mostly used for internet and work. Occasionally I will play Civ 4 which is the only PC game I have played much in the last few years.
    You definitely need to try Rome: Total War ... just try it, trust me.

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