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jamcat
02-14-2005, 11:22 AM
Interesting story. Hip Hop king to boycott KFC.

http://entertainment.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=181436

Shane R. Monroe
02-14-2005, 12:53 PM
Hey, I'm down to boycott. After seeing what they do to circus animals when the big top is empty of customers - I boycott circuses too.

And no, I don't eat veal.

Chewchilla
02-14-2005, 02:54 PM
So what exactly is the "correct" way to kill a chicken for consumption purposes?

Darksol
02-14-2005, 03:56 PM
So what exactly is the "correct" way to kill a chicken for consumption purposes?

A quick and clean death. I have read stories about slaughterhouses that KFC uses where they throw the chickens at the wall as hard as they can crushing their bones before finally killing them. That is despicable.

I'm okay with eating animals for food. But I think having a regard for life in general would dictate that I try to be as respectful as I can toward the life that I am taking if the circumstances permit it (i.e. I'm not in the forest all by myself and I haven't ate for several days).

Chickens probably aren't that smart but living in a cage so small your entire life where you don't even have the space to move plus getting killed like that is crap. If its okay then try standing in place with only the ability to bend your knees and not be able to move and see how much you like it your ENTIRE life. Try doing that for a day.

However, I do think there ARE some people that need to be treated this way. Humans are the only creatures that are truly evil. We have the choice between doing what is right and what is wrong. We are also the only ones who can think we are doing good when we are doing the opposite in fact.

GodMedia
02-14-2005, 04:45 PM
Let's face it, most people couldn't care any less about how their McThingy was treated before it got piled on the sesame seed buns with the special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, and onions. We eat these things with total mindlessness, and there are a billion McIdiots out there to fill the coffers of the Colonel, the clown, the king, and the chihuahua for every one of us who might decide to take the bold moral stand and boycott the local franchise of processed grease and animal parts in protest over their practices.

Sure, we can cry out for better treatment of the things we eat before they become our next coronary, and companies should indeed treat those things better. Sadly, however, this kind of thing happens in every sector of every industry that processes carcasses for consumption. Are you willing to boycott all forms of animal products and all products that involve any kind of animals in their design, creation, and/or mass production? Some vegetarians might, but are we all willing to be vegetarians? More importantly, do you really believe that it will really bring about some great change when so few care, and when companies can still make loads of cash without you?

Certainly, we should not partake in anything that is morally unreasonable to us personally so that our own personal consciences can remain clean, that is good and healthy for our mental well-being. But, to do so thinking that it's going to make so great a statement that it will bring corporations crashing to their knees begging us to accept their repentant hearts is just foolishness. My daily McFix isn't worth a hill of beans to anybody. Even the McDollars of thousands isn't worth anything. These companies are making billions and have plenty of ways to get more without all of us.

Oh, and by the way, all of this talk is really pointless because:


Simmons, who is chairman of Def Jam Records and is a vegan

The guy who is heading up the boycott is already an avowed non-carnivore and probably objects to the fact that any animal is killed for consumption regardless of whether it is done humanely or not. Just what the heck does a vegan stop doing when they boycott a KFC? Were they going in there and buying loads of coleslaw and strawberry parfaits before? This guy wasn't going to any stinking KFC, he just wants to pick a fight for a lost cause. LOSER!

Shane R. Monroe
02-14-2005, 07:44 PM
BAHAHAHAHAHAA! Good point.

However, I believe that one man CAN make a difference (whoa .. who turned on KNIGHT RIDER?). If I didn't, I sure wouldn't be doing this show. I'd whore myself out to some ghey radio or TV station bantering about the latest worthless game that fills the coffers of the company that pays my salary. I'd be writing worthless drivel for EGM. I'd sell out and become part of the machine we all know is evil (admit it or not).

But no ... I DO believe I can make a difference - no matter how small - and so did Bryan. He passed on knowing he'd done something (however small) nobel.

When all is said and done ... and we're buried or burned to the earth ... what is it we leave behind ...?

Chewchilla
02-14-2005, 07:54 PM
A quick and clean death. I have read stories about slaughterhouses that KFC uses where they throw the chickens at the wall as hard as they can crushing their bones before finally killing them. That is despicable.

A "quick and clean death" and chickens are two things that do not go together - same can be said for just about any other animal that's killed for the consumption of its flesh. Ever see anybody "sneak up" on a chicken, whisper "sweet nothings" into its ear (Do chickens have ears?), and then give it a lethal injection? Neither have I. If you have a farmer living next to you and see him/her bash a chicken's head in or twist its head off so that the family can have a nice dinner, do you try and get them kicked out of the county? No. The killing of animals so that people can satisfy their cravings for meat will never be "pretty" - no matter how it's done.


I'm okay with eating animals for food. But I think having a regard for life in general would dictate that I try to be as respectful as I can toward the life that I am taking if the circumstances permit it (i.e. I'm not in the forest all by myself and I haven't ate for several days).

So if you're not starving and not running around the woods as a werewolf - you take the chicken out for a nice dinner, tell the chicken how much you appreciate it giving its life for your buffalo wings needs (Making sure the chicken knows that its flesh is FAR superior to anything a buffalo could offer),
and then put it to sleep in a "humane" way so that its meat will be at its finger-lickin' best for the ranch dressing that is chilling in the fridge - got it.


Chickens probably aren't that smart but living in a cage so small your entire life where you don't even have the space to move plus getting killed like that is crap.

Chickens aren't smart. They're sitting in their own crap one day and *bok* sitting in their own crap one day and *bok* sitting in their own crap one day...
And if a chicken is lucky enough to live 5 years, a cage would more than likely be one of the nicest places it could park its feathery ass - and then it can die happy. What's dumber than a chicken? A chicken bred for the sole purpose of being slaughtered to provide nuggets for a Happy Meal. THAT chicken is lucky to have a single *bok* go through its tiny brain.


If its okay then try standing in place with only the ability to bend your knees and not be able to move and see how much you like it your ENTIRE life. Try doing that for a day.

Oh dear...comparing humans to chickens. Try that line on a duck - it would be more appropriate (Do ducks have knees?). For humans it would be, "Try living in a third world country without any food or shelter for your entire life and see how YOU like it."


However, I do think there ARE some people that need to be treated this way. Humans are the only creatures that are truly evil. We have the choice between doing what is right and what is wrong. We are also the only ones who can think we are doing good when we are doing the opposite in fact.

There are some evil humans out there - especially the ones that care more about how a chicken is being killed for KFC than helping a starving homeless PERSON. And I guess all those humans using animals for medical research so that we can live longer, healthier lives are pretty evil too. But all those humans vandalizing property and in some cases bombing buildings to protect the "rights of animals" are the good guys....right?

Anyway, all this talk about chicken is making me hungry. I hope the chicken strips don't give me the "sad eyes" again....Do chickens have sad eyes?

Darksol
02-14-2005, 09:02 PM
A "quick and clean death" and chickens are two things that do not go together - same can be said for just about any other animal that's killed for the consumption of its flesh. Ever see anybody "sneak up" on a chicken, whisper "sweet nothings" into its ear (Do chickens have ears?), and then give it a lethal injection? Neither have I. If you have a farmer living next to you and see him/her bash a chicken's head in or twist its head off so that the family can have a nice dinner, do you try and get them kicked out of the county? No. The killing of animals so that people can satisfy their cravings for meat will never be "pretty" - no matter how it's done.



So if you're not starving and not running around the woods as a werewolf - you take the chicken out for a nice dinner, tell the chicken how much you appreciate it giving its life for your buffalo wings needs (Making sure the chicken knows that its flesh is FAR superior to anything a buffalo could offer),
and then put it to sleep in a "humane" way so that its meat will be at its finger-lickin' best for the ranch dressing that is chilling in the fridge - got it.



Chickens aren't smart. They're sitting in their own crap one day and *bok* sitting in their own crap one day and *bok* sitting in their own crap one day...
And if a chicken is lucky enough to live 5 years, a cage would more than likely be one of the nicest places it could park its feathery ass - and then it can die happy. What's dumber than a chicken? A chicken bred for the sole purpose of being slaughtered to provide nuggets for a Happy Meal. THAT chicken is lucky to have a single *bok* go through its tiny brain.



Oh dear...comparing humans to chickens. Try that line on a duck - it would be more appropriate (Do ducks have knees?). For humans it would be, "Try living in a third world country without any food or shelter for your entire life and see how YOU like it."



There are some evil humans out there - especially the ones that care more about how a chicken is being killed for KFC than helping a starving homeless PERSON. And I guess all those humans using animals for medical research so that we can live longer, healthier lives are pretty evil too. But all those humans vandalizing property and in some cases bombing buildings to protect the "rights of animals" are the good guys....right?

Anyway, all this talk about chicken is making me hungry. I hope the chicken strips don't give me the "sad eyes" again....Do chickens have sad eyes?


Bahahahahahah some good and humourous points! Geez what a long response to my trolling ! I am as much a carnivore as anyone else. I even had chicken tonight for dinner!
Here is what disturbs me most about your post : Its like you care about humanity!

As for starving homeless people and third world countries : SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST! Each person has to stand on their own. Haven't you ever wondered that if people are starving in an area that there are too many people in that area ? If those starving people were smart they would consume the other half for sustenance!

jamcat
02-14-2005, 09:29 PM
Ah, shades of Soylent Green.

I'll take the lightly salted homeless bum chips with a side of crack ho vaginal salsa. Mmmmm. :)

GodMedia
02-14-2005, 09:38 PM
crack ho vaginal salsa. Mmmmm. :)

That is perhaps one of THE sickEST things I have ever heard of. I will not be able to get that image out of my head for YEARS! :(

Chewchilla
02-14-2005, 09:39 PM
Bahahahahahah some good and humourous points! Geez what a long response to my trolling !

Sometimes I get on a roll - that's why I have butter on my shorts (Thank you Harry Anderson!).


I am as much a carnivore as anyone else. I even had chicken tonight for dinner!

As did I - some very good roasted lemon pepper chicken.


Here is what disturbs me most about your post : Its like you care about humanity!

Tell that to the bum next to my workplace I shower with hot coffee every morning because he tries to wash my windshield with spit and a piece of newspaper he's been keeping down the front of his pants since last summer. "I'll give you a dollar, a tip, AND the coffee shower if you'll just stay away from my windows!" ;)


As for starving homeless people and third world countries : SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST! Each person has to stand on their own. Haven't you ever wondered that if people are starving in an area that there are too many people in that area ? If those starving people were smart they would consume the other half for sustenance!

I think you just described FOX's next reality series: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST! "Somewhere in a third world country that could only be compared to HELL....THOUSANDS of starving people....Only ONE will come out on top....WHO will become the BIGGEST cannibal and win a Sony recording contract? Tune in next season to find out!"

GodMedia
02-14-2005, 09:57 PM
But no ... I DO believe I can make a difference - no matter how small - and so did Bryan. He passed on knowing he'd done something (however small) nobel.

When all is said and done ... and we're buried or burned to the earth ... what is it we leave behind ...?

We affect the world that we can affect. That is what we leave behind.

It is a matter of scale. We have to balance what affect we can have against how much is out there needing affecting. In the specific terms of this discussion, we're talking about a few thousand people, at the very best, being so concerned about how chickens are slaughtered (note that slaughter is not a pretty word) versus literal millions of people globally who don't give a flying fart how their food is prepared. (Heck, if any of us really gave a heck about how our food is prepared we sure as shooting would not be eating anything at KFC, McD's, BK, etc.).

Perhaps I would have done better to state that in this particular battle, we can affect little change so it is rather futile. I did not mean that we should not attempt to affect change in our world at all. We must fight for right, but we must also fight the right fight.