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allenfrisch
12-15-2004, 07:14 AM
When's the Christmas Show going to be available for our listening pleasure? Christmas Day? Oh! Am I allowed to type the word Christmas in public any more? Maybe I should have used X-mas instead. Sorry if anybody's eyes were offended! So anyway, what's the dope? Is the show going to be coming out sooner than the 25th?

Shane R. Monroe
12-15-2004, 07:28 AM
HOLIDAY show ... Can't say christmas ...

The show is recorded. Bryan is working on it. Should be up in the next few days I would assume.

We both have busy holiday schedules, so the Jan 2005 show might be late - but it will be worth it. The Christmas show is FULL featured (should be a couple hour show as always) so that should hold everyone off until after the holidays.

allenfrisch
12-15-2004, 07:39 AM
Sweeeet... Thanks for filling us in!

sfish
12-15-2004, 08:14 AM
Wow! What a cool gift for... er... the holidays. Thanks for all your hard work, guys! It's very much appreciated.

Chewchilla
12-15-2004, 08:19 AM
Cool! I look forward to listening to the show while I'm "on the road." :D

babydoggen
12-15-2004, 04:04 PM
phew that means i can stop checking the rgr website twice a day from work now hehe

Shane R. Monroe
12-15-2004, 04:34 PM
You should have RSS .. you wouldn't HAVE to check the site :)

Darksol
12-15-2004, 04:53 PM
Shane, does Opera automatically detect that you have a RSS feed with your current setup when you visit your home page ? Firefox does not recognize that you have a RSS feed by just visiting the main page.

I wonder if it would be too much trouble for you to add somethng like this so that I can add a live bookmark for your website via Firefox

This is example of HTML code that marks RSS feed to browsers, it should be added to head section of HTML file:

<link rel="newsfeed" type="application/rss+xml" title="Example RSS" href="http://www.example.com/news.rss" />

I am not sure what type you are using ?

* application/xml
* application/rss+xml
* application/rdf+xml
* application/atom+xml

This would make us Opera, Firefox, and Apple Safari users happier.

Shane R. Monroe
12-15-2004, 06:10 PM
Its on the list of things to do ...

Flare
12-16-2004, 07:45 AM
Wow... am I missing out big time for running IE? I hear you guys talking about stuff like RSS (which I know nothing about), Opera, Adfilter and all that.

What then? Is it so recommended that I ditch IE in favor of Opera?

Darksol
12-16-2004, 07:57 AM
Wow... am I missing out big time for running IE? I hear you guys talking about stuff like RSS (which I know nothing about), Opera, Adfilter and all that.

What then? Is it so recommended that I ditch IE in favor of Opera?

The answer is a big resounding yes. These days there is really no reason to use IE except for those web sites that have to use IE. Even then you could use a better browser like Avant or Maxthon which usses IE's HTML engine.

Back on topic :

Can't wait for the show!

Shane R. Monroe
12-16-2004, 08:47 AM
Definitely use ANYTHING other than IE. I don't care if its Firefox, Opera, whatever. We ALL have to keep IE around for those ugly sites that people can't code on, but for the most part, alternative browsers have really come a long way. RARELY do I have to use IE for anything now - Opera is working very well.

I choose Opera for a variety of reasons. But I understand people that use Firefox.

A little off topic here - but what the hell ... I choose Opera because:

1. I don't believe that open source software can actually be secure. If you have access to the sourcecode, you have access to the vulnerabilities.

2. I don't like the plugin architecture in Firefox. I don't like the idea that Firefox, out of the box, really does nothing. You have to get third party plugins that may or may NOT be safe - from a site that's down more than its up it seems. I like Opera's approach to "if you don't need it, disable it and don't even load it". If I don't need Opera's mail component, I can get rid of it. But, with a fresh Opera install, I have everything I need - no worries.

3. Firefox touts standards, yet with valid code, I can make it not work. I don't like Firefox's developers preaching to me how to code javascript. If its legal and valid it should run.

4. There are features in Opera that simply don't exist elsewhere (like real time screen scaling). And I love it. They are the LAST browser that continues to innovate (everyone and I mean EVERYONE else steals from them - including Firefox). I could go on and on. Check this out: http://tntluoma.com/opera/lover/7/

5. MDI ... I love MDI ... and no one else has it. Opera dropped MDI for a beta build .. I almost lost my mind (as did tons of other people) - and it was back the very next build.

6. Its the fastest render engine on earth. I regularly use IE, Firefox, and Mozilla for testing web site compatibility. Simply put - nothing is faster than Opera. Nothing.

Opera is not without its shortcomings. But the shortcomings don't piss me off like other browsers do. As always, every person must decide themselves. Me, personally, I won't shun a product simply because it costs money and there is a free alternative. I don't believe I should run a product SOLEY for the fact its open source. I'm not really a zealot anymore - I was in the Amiga days. I use what works best for me, and I try to share my passion for it with others.

Ask Bryan - he's tried to divorce Opera a couple of times - but last I checked, he's still using it :)

Shane R. Monroe
12-16-2004, 09:22 PM
Shane, does Opera automatically detect that you have a RSS feed with your current setup when you visit your home page ? Firefox does not recognize that you have a RSS feed by just visiting the main page.

This would make us Opera, Firefox, and Apple Safari users happier.

This has been fixed. You should be able to see it now.

WorknMan
12-16-2004, 09:40 PM
Don't let Shane scare you out of at least trying Firefox though :) And when you download it, be sure to head to the extension room and have a look around:

https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=firefox

The first thing on your list to download should be Adblock, which I personally think is the greatest thing to happen to the web browser since tabbed browsing :) True, it may be a pain in the ass that all these extensions aren't built in, but geez .. there are over 170 of them, some of them doing things that Opera doesn't do at all. (I'd LOVE to the 'Nuke Anything' extension on Opera).

While I personally prefer Firefox over Opera, I am awfully tempted to switch when Opera 7.6 comes out because of its text-to-speech feature. Having the computer read web pages to me while I sit back and relax is damn nice :)

Darksol
12-16-2004, 11:12 PM
This has been fixed. You should be able to see it now.

Thanks Shane for always trying to keep your site slick and up to date. The only issue I am having is that even though the summary text will show up in the bookmark section, clicking on the live bookmark link always just takes you to the main page of RGR.

Shane R. Monroe
12-17-2004, 06:43 AM
Right ... That's where they all point to ... there really isn't anything to point to, per se. You get the full story in the RSS - not "partial story then come look at my ads" preview. :)

Chewchilla
12-21-2004, 09:07 AM
The show is recorded. Bryan is working on it. Should be up in the next few days I would assume.
So will the show be home in time for Christmas or will it arrive hungover on New Year's Day? (Damn show ALWAYS drinks too much over the Holidays!) ;)

kittendaddy
12-21-2004, 10:07 AM
Don't let Shane scare you out of at least trying Firefox though :) And when you download it, be sure to head to the extension room and have a look around:

https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=firefox

The first thing on your list to download should be Adblock, which I personally think is the greatest thing to happen to the web browser since tabbed browsing :) True, it may be a pain in the ass that all these extensions aren't built in, but geez .. there are over 170 of them, some of them doing things that Opera doesn't do at all. (I'd LOVE to the 'Nuke Anything' extension on Opera).

While I personally prefer Firefox over Opera, I am awfully tempted to switch when Opera 7.6 comes out because of its text-to-speech feature. Having the computer read web pages to me while I sit back and relax is damn nice :)
Idk, I had to do some accessability testing for a site some time ago, and you go out of your mind at how slow it is to navigate that way - even people who read slowly process information way faster than having it read to them. But it IS a cool feature since Opera is a budget-price option for those people who are sight-impaired.

I'm a current Firefox user (we support Firefox but not Opera officially for our server console here at work), and have registered Opera in the past, and I think both Firefox and Opera have a lot going for them. I think Opera has some of the best ideas and innovations for navigation - TRUE MDI (so all windows open in tabs, not just the ones you ask for), mouse gestures, and true zooming are all great features. That having been said, I'm glad Firefox comes out of the box so light. It doesn't do "nothing", it does exactly what it should do - browse web sites. It's accessible for novice users in a way that very few open source software is. It takes IE on head-on and owns the crap out of it.

I'm just glad that we have both options, and they both rock IE :).

Catdaddy
12-22-2004, 01:40 AM
HOLIDAY show ... Can't say christmas ...

I say Political Correctness be damned. May it be boiled in it's own pudding with a stake of holly through it's heart.

Merry Christmas to Shane and Bryan. Can't wait to hear the Christmas show.