Dual Screen Radio 4/13/2006 (1x6) - DS Lite Special Edition is now out!

[Shane R. Monroe]

Shane and Chris go HANDS ON the new Nintendo DS Lite - taking you from A to Z with the new look, the new features, and practical information. We tell you everything you wanted to know - and we answer the questions YOU submitted about the DS Lite. Brand new, first hand high res images of the unit and comparative pictures with the original DS, plus a high quality 10+ minute video showing your favorite games being played on the beautiful, rich color screens. All this and so much more on this episode of Dual Screen Radio!

http://www.dualscreenradio.com/download.php?current=1

[GrilledMonkeyFat]

Oh good, the thread is no longer locked. Nice DSR intro, where'd ya get the female voice FOR the intro? (Sorry to ask again)

[Shane R. Monroe]

Chris' hot wife ... :)

[GrilledMonkeyFat]

ROFL!!!!! Nice!!! For a second, I thought you went to one of those celebrity voices sites, and paid someone a small fee for that. Maybe I can borrow the "hot wife" for some voice work for VMR's intros and jingles. Is Chris the "jealous and violent" type?? (kidding) ;)

[jakdin]

I had just assumed that voice was Shane on helium? ;)

[GrilledMonkeyFat]

At least Shane had the dignity to not attempt doing a female voice for HIS show!

Guess who did?

[Darksol]

listening now

[Womp]

Oh good, the thread is no longer locked. Nice DSR intro, where'd ya get the female voice FOR the intro? (Sorry to ask again)

The one you are hearing for the past few shows is version 2 of it as the original was a bit rough. I redid it from scratch with a bunch of imput from Shanestah and was sad to remove those Electroplankton bubbles at the beginning but they had to be cut so as to not bore the audience.

The voice (As my esteemed brother in arms already pointed out) is my wife, she had a ball doing it and got really excited when I asked her to supply the vocals for it. She was very um, experimental on some of the outtakes but basically nailed it by take 2. :)

[miner2049er]

Just a heads up, but the dreaded iTunes has the episode titled as the 11th of the month which is the same as the last episode.

Not really a problem but I had to change it for uploading to the mirror.

[Shane R. Monroe]

I took care of that this morning ... stupid crap.

The outtakes rule. Maybe on our first DVD you'll hear them ... :)

[kaladron]

I was wondering if you guys would do a DVD. If it has enough new content (I'm saving all the shows) then I'll definately buy one.

[Shane R. Monroe]

It's possible. Probably do the same as RGR ... keep 6 shows online at a time, everything else gets archived. I do keep deleted stuff and some of it is pretty good.

[quickstraw]

Shane, you mentioned the DS Lite AC adapter was different than the old DS. From the way you described it, it sounded a lot like the Gameboy Micro AC adapter. I wonder if the Lite and Micro will share the same adapter just like the DS and Advance?

[sergioalb64]

Great show you guys! Lots of accurate information and feedback; answering listener's questions was an awesome idea too. I just can't wait to get my own Lite, but for now your show was awesome.

[sergioalb64]

Shane, you mentioned the DS Lite AC adapter was different than the old DS. From the way you described it, it sounded a lot like the Gameboy Micro AC adapter. I wonder if the Lite and Micro will share the same adapter just like the DS and Advance?

It's been proven that no, this is a brand new adapter, so no sharing it with the Micro.

[miner2049er]

The outtakes rule. Maybe on our first DVD you'll hear them ... :)

Probably more scope for that on a co-hosted show. Double the fun...........

[quickstraw]

It's been proven that no, this is a brand new adapter, so no sharing it with the Micro.
That's too bad. Where did you find that info?

[Womp]

That's too bad. Where did you find that info?

Its been mentioned before although I don't actually have an article handy for you. Its true though, Micro and DSLite have different power schemes.

[Shane R. Monroe]

I could care less now ... 3 hour charge? Sign me up ...

[nazzar]

I stuck this show on my mp3 player, slumped onto my sofa with my ds lite and listened. Great show some parts were pretty damm funny. I got my ds lite earlier this week(i-pod white). I had ordered it in early march from liksang. I have bumped my ds lite around a bit and so far no cracks or scratches have surfaced. I have just ordered some screen protectors and for now I am mainly playing games that I can use the d-pad and buttons for so I dont hurt the screen. Before I got my ds-lite I noticed the lip it had on videos and pictures and that kinda bugged me. But as Shane said once I got my ds lite I totally forgot about it. I plan to sell my original ds to free up some money to buy some more games and accessories. Anyways great show!

[Son_of_Sun]

I ordered my DS lite today from http://www.gamechoiceclub.com/
I ordered the Enamel Navy. I think I'll keep my old (white) DS so friends can play single cart multiplayer games. The only thing I need now is a AC Power Adapter (since I live in Europe the one that comes with the lite will not work).

[gavv]

the current trade-in for used DS system at GameStop/EB is $50.

gavv

[BJWanlund]

Hey Shane and Chris, THANK YOU for putting my questions in there!

BTW, you aren't the first Happy Meals to mispronounce my last name! It's actually an Americanized version of a Swedish name (believe it or not) and it was actually coined by my great-great-great grandfather, Sven Andersson Wanlund, who had to change his name (no joke!) after the postman asked the multiple Sven Anderssons on his mail route to pull straws, and (unfortunately) he lost. So, for the last name, he remembered the Varmlunt mountain range/region in Sweden where he was born, and he decided to Americanize it to Wanlund.

BTW, he actually immigrated from Sweden to Illinois! Strange, but true.

Hey, if anyone from Sweden on here knows about the Varmlunt, I'd truly like to know. I'm attempting to get genealogical data for my family, and the Varmlunt area holds some massive secrets. It may be helpful to know where all my relatives back even farther than my great-great-great grandfather were born, and whether there are any connections at all either here in America or in Sweden. I just want to know for my information, and I am going to have to look for the birth certificates and death certificates in all kinds of different places. It's going to be a really arduous task, trust me. So I need all the help I can get.

BJ

[Galaga will never die]

Nice show, I learned a lot about the DSLite!

[Flare]

I just watched the DS Lite video from the DSR website. It looks very nice. The screens are amazing!

I have to say though, I'm a little bit disappointed; I was actually expecting Shane to talk during the video. I'd have loved that :).

I guess we'll have to supress our desirees for a DSR Videocast. :(

[Shane R. Monroe]

It would have been impossible ... I was contorted enough recording it...

[panpan]

Wow, I didn't know it was possible to fill up an entire show about the DS Lite. Good stuff! The show made it clear that I shouldn't get a DS Lite for now. Maybe I'll use the money to pick up some games I skipped last year.

[Shane R. Monroe]

Interesting... You're the first, I think, to say AFTER the review that you DIDN'T want one.

Any particular reason or just "not enough"?

[Flare]

You know, on the contrary, for me that I don't have one right now; I think when I finally buy one it will be the Lite.

This show convinced me to wait.

[panpan]

Interesting... You're the first, I think, to say AFTER the review that you DIDN'T want one.

Any particular reason or just "not enough"?

Well, I fall into the "only plays the DS at home category". Sure, I drooled a bit over the clarity of the new screens, but I can't really say I feel that there is anything wrong with my current DS. Unlike some, I really like the buttons and d-pad on the old model, and in my dungeon of an appartment the screens look good enough. So yeah, "not enough" would be a good way to say it.

[gavv]

You know, it didn't doubly click in my mind about Intellivision Lives! DS until the show, i'd been clouded by the sheer drool inspiration of the touchscreen pad, but online multiplayer Intellivision....wow, totally had slipped my mind, the greatest knock against the IL property was that the perceived best games for the system were 2-player only (sports, Sea Battle, *UTOPIA*, man you better not have to stand up after pondering being able to play wireless online handheld utopia ;) ) No wonder that the product is taking quite so long, i assume (and hope) it's for getting wifi online multiplayer functioning and working....Keith Robinson are hosting a Wednesday intellivision/retro nite party of E3 week at the home of All Games Radio at the Arena Lounge in LA (www.e3outpost.com) , and i wonder if he'll have some demos :)

gavv

[Womp]

You know, it didn't doubly click in my mind about Intellivision Lives! DS until the show, i'd been clouded by the sheer drool inspiration of the touchscreen pad, but online multiplayer Intellivision....wow, totally had slipped my mind, the greatest knock against the IL property was that the perceived best games for the system were 2-player only (sports, Sea Battle, *UTOPIA*, man you better not have to stand up after pondering being able to play wireless online handheld utopia ;) ) No wonder that the product is taking quite so long, i assume (and hope) it's for getting wifi online multiplayer functioning and working....Keith Robinson are hosting a Wednesday intellivision/retro nite party of E3 week at the home of All Games Radio at the Arena Lounge in LA (www.e3outpost.com) , and i wonder if he'll have some demos :)

gavv

INTV Lives on DS is like at the top of my list for possible upcoming games, I await anxiously with my bib on! :D

A shame the Imagic, AD&D, TRON and Coleco stuff won't be included but hey I can live, wifi Sea Battle would own my ass raw!

[DaMenace]

Woot! Downloading now..

BTW, has anyone from Nintendo contacted you yet about your show?

[Flare]

INTV Lives on DS is like at the top of my list for possible upcoming games, I await anxiously with my bib on! :D

A shame the Imagic, AD&D, TRON and Coleco stuff won't be included but hey I can live, wifi Sea Battle would own my ass raw!

I hear you Womp.... Destroyer, Battleship, P/T Boat... oh the memories. Sea Battle was one of the best INTV titles.

[Flare]

To me a bigger shame is that titles like Burgertime, Kool-Aid Man, He-Man and Mission X are not included :(

[gavv]

INTV Lives on DS is like at the top of my list for possible upcoming games, I await anxiously with my bib on! :D

A shame the Imagic, AD&D, TRON and Coleco stuff won't be included but hey I can live, wifi Sea Battle would own my ass raw!

well, like the pc IL packs, the AD&D games will at least be there ('Adventure', 'Minotaur', etc) .


If i remember correctly a long while ago discussion with Keith R (maybe even back like CGE 01 or 02), The Rocks package with Activision/Imagic was part of a deal they made with Activision that allowed Activision to make and publish the intellivision collection on the original PS1, and that limited nature is also why the content of 'Rocks' hasn't been ported.

gavv

[Flare]

Hehe.... yeah, I can see in the video that when you start to play MPH, you start moving the tripod and DS around in an awkward way....

Sir, you were hugging your tripod!

[miner2049er]

Interesting... You're the first, I think, to say AFTER the review that you DIDN'T want one.

If I didn't have an original DS I would go for the Lite, or if my DS breaks then my next one will be a Lite. I won't however upgrade. Just not enough reason to.

The supercard looks ugly as hell stuck out there too. Kind of spoils the aesthetic.

New Mini SD out though that fits better.

Money, money, money. If it ain't one thing it's your mother!

[Shane R. Monroe]

I'll be getting that MiniSD one eventually... Then it is only 1cm sticking out ...

[miner2049er]

I'll be getting that MiniSD one eventually... Then it is only 1cm sticking out ...

I bet the larger Mini SD Cards are still pricey though.

..........leaves to check.

[kaladron]

Hi Shane,

Does your Ice Blue Lite show up finger prints very much? I got the Navy Blue one yesterday and it looked horrible within seconds thanks to the way it attracts greasy finger marks.

[Shane R. Monroe]

I will say this ... the Ice Blue (ghey as it may be) shows NO fingerprints. It is INCREDIBLY clean. Sorry to hear about the Navy blue one ... That's the one I eventually want!

[THATinkjar]

I will say this ... the Ice Blue (ghey as it may be) shows NO fingerprints. It is INCREDIBLY clean. Sorry to hear about the Navy blue one ... That's the one I eventually want!

Ok, you know, it does attract fingerprints a little more than I first thought. But I just use my PSP's cloth to wipe those babies off. And all is well. It doesn't bother me. I'm sure the White and Ice Blue don't show the prints as badly, of course, but I don't think it is PSP bad.

[Shane R. Monroe]

Guess what... :confused: I got myself a new friend... NINTENDO DS lite!

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2662/thesosgotanewfrienddslite9cy.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2662/thesosgotanewfrienddslite9cy.jpg)

I'm really happy! ...and the colours! OMG! The screens are amazing! Everything you read about the lite is true! (Well not everything, it can't bring people back to life or make that smell go away).

I got a dead/frozen pixel on the top screen (http://i3.tinypic.com/vztsld.gif) (look for a red litte dot)... but it's nothing big... I'll live :)

This is an echo .. the original post was deleted because of time stamp issues.

[Pedro UK]

I finally made it to the end of the show! I listen to it in my shop (it's a game shop so it's kinda cool) but I have to pause while dealing with those pesky customers...Great show. It was interesting listening while playing around with my DS Lite and checking out the site photos - Interactive radio is the future :P

As an aside I was wondering where Shane got his Metroid manclutch thingy mentioned at the end of the show. I love the Metroid series and I love my Lite so I'm pretty tempted by the idea of a Metroid case. Best Buy was mentioned but I can't see anything on their site. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance, Pedro UK :)

I

[miner2049er]

As an aside I was wondering where Shane got his Metroid manclutch thingy........

Target, right next to the bras and panties. :D

[Womp]

I finally made it to the end of the show! I listen to it in my shop (it's a game shop so it's kinda cool) but I have to pause while dealing with those pesky customers...Great show. It was interesting listening while playing around with my DS Lite and checking out the site photos - Interactive radio is the future :P

As an aside I was wondering where Shane got his Metroid manclutch thingy mentioned at the end of the show. I love the Metroid series and I love my Lite so I'm pretty tempted by the idea of a Metroid case. Best Buy was mentioned but I can't see anything on their site. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance, Pedro UK :)

I

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802208

[Shane R. Monroe]

Yeah, its the last picture in the photo gallery for the DS Lite...

[RetroBob]

Loving the in depth info - I can't believe you managed talk about it for over an hour and a half. Good pics as well, although I'm not sure if the crotch shot was entirely necessary!

[miner2049er]

Good pics as well, although I'm not sure if the crotch shot was entirely necessary!

Maybe that is Lite too. :p

[miner2049er]

Just realised I killed Shane twice in the same thread. Oops.

Feel the love. ;)

[RetroBob]

Does the video have sound? Can't seem to hear anything

[Shane R. Monroe]

My video? No, I decided that higher video quality would be better :)

[RetroBob]

Ahh, with you. BTW, the direct download one seems pretty slow. Advise going for the google one.

[Shane R. Monroe]

Ummm ... the direct download is 87MB ... The google one has been BUTCHERED a lot to be that small and fast. Stream the one off Zaccum to see the real difference :)

[Mr Tornado]

Another superb show. It's amazing how much more information you can get listening to people discussing a product/game. I could read a dozen print articles on the Lite & come away pretty much none the wiser. Whereas after listening to the show, I know everything I need to about the Lite. Great stuff indeed. Without wanting to sound too creepy, I really appreciate the work that Shane & Chris put into DSR & it's made playing the DS more enjoyable, if that makes sense.

[BJWanlund]

Hey Shane and Chris, I need another question answered on the next show. I had to trade in my original DS because my hands are more susceptible to cramping than anyone else. I had to trade in Mario Kart DS AND my DS because my hands kept cramping up, because the buttons were too small. It looks to me like the DS Lite won't have that problem, because the buttons are so huge (an improvement over the original DS to be sure). Is this the case? Shane, I know you can answer this, since you know about the hand cramping issues with subsequent rereleases of the GBA, the Micro, for example. Are large or easily cramp-able hands going to cramp easily with the DS Lite over the original DS?

BJ

[Womp]

Hey Shane and Chris, I need another question answered on the next show. I had to trade in my original DS because my hands are more susceptible to cramping than anyone else. I had to trade in Mario Kart DS AND my DS because my hands kept cramping up, because the buttons were too small. It looks to me like the DS Lite won't have that problem, because the buttons are so huge (an improvement over the original DS to be sure). Is this the case? Shane, I know you can answer this, since you know about the hand cramping issues with subsequent rereleases of the GBA, the Micro, for example. Are large or easily cramp-able hands going to cramp easily with the DS Lite over the original DS?

BJ

If its anything like how mine cramp after 15 min playing Prime Hunters, I hear ya on that one man.

[BJWanlund]

it's worse. I was playing MKDS for 2-3 hours, and it really hurt like hell.

BJ

[Shane R. Monroe]

Let me tell you something ... if you need a reason to go to the Lite ...

I went back to my red DS to play some Tetris (I forgot my Lite charging at home) and MAN ... The controls PISSED me off ... the Lite is SOOO much more comfortable...

[BJWanlund]

okay, question answered!

Thanks Shane and Chris! Especially Shane! Never underestimate the original DS's ability to induce massive hand cramps. (hey, that's a great idea for a Garfield strip!!!! Are there any Gamer Graffix skins for DS Lite just yet? Garfield would RULE!!!)

BJ

[RetroEd]

Only just registered here, after lurking for quite a while now. An informative and enjoyable episode, as always. My Lite is currently on its way from Lik-Sang. :)

I have listened to each episode so far, they're just a great listen while at I'm at work. Myself and a work friend listen religiously to the show. You have even persuaded another of my colleagues to purchase a DS, throwing down a 3 way LAN Mario Kart is not far off now, YES! I have to say, a huge 'stylus-up' to you Shane and Chris for putting this show together. Long may it continue.

[Shane R. Monroe]

Thanks a bunch from moving from "lurker" to "poster" ...We love having fans chatting on here! Welcome!

[Pedro UK]

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802208


Thanks Womp and Shane. I have been without the 'net for a few days (driving me up the wall!) but now I'm back online and have just ordered my very own Man-clutch from Gamestop. The postage was $15 but I'm sure it'll be worth it - if it's good enough for Shane R, it's good enough for me :p

On the DS Lite though, don't you think that the big N missed a trick by not making the GBA slot cover a Rumble Pak?

[Shane R. Monroe]

That's a good point ... but consider this...

Retail cost of the rumble pak is $10. Let's be clear, the thing is probably $2 to make - BUT ... they aren't making rumble paks in large quantity, so let's say its $4 a hit with low production numbers. Nintendo has never lost money on hardware - so they would HAVE to pass that cost on to you.

Consider that only ONE game REALLY makes GREAT use of the rumble pack (Metroid Prime Pinball ... although Hunters the feature is useful for feeling someone blasing you in the back) and only about 5 games support it at all.

I can see why they would NOT want to pass that on.

On the other hand, a "pak in every pot" would DEFINTELY encourage developers to use it.

The rumble pak should be like any other force feedback - used properly or not at all. MOST games on the DS just don't lend themselves to it (although a missed trick is not having support for it in Mario Kart). No need to use technology 'just because'.

Enjoy your man bag. I hope you like it!

[Womp]

Only just registered here, after lurking for quite a while now. An informative and enjoyable episode, as always. My Lite is currently on its way from Lik-Sang. :)

I have listened to each episode so far, they're just a great listen while at I'm at work. Myself and a work friend listen religiously to the show. You have even persuaded another of my colleagues to purchase a DS, throwing down a 3 way LAN Mario Kart is not far off now, YES! I have to say, a huge 'stylus-up' to you Shane and Chris for putting this show together. Long may it continue.

Welcome to the forum!

I'm still pining for my Lite...Trying to convince the wife to allow me to import one isn't easy. :(

[Mr Tornado]

More UK listeners/posters. Good stuff indeed. :)

[Womp]

The UK rocks....

....Besides your gaming top 10 lists that is.

:D

[kaladron]

The UK rocks....

....Besides your gaming top 10 lists that is.

:D

I work in a UK games shop and let me tell you....it is THE most depressing job. If it doesn't have cars or guns (or both) then nobody seems to be interested.

[miner2049er]

Enjoy your man bag. I hope you like it!


You're killing me. :D :D :D

[Mr Tornado]

The UK rocks....

....Besides your gaming top 10 lists that is.

:D

Aha ! Animal Crossing WW is now third in the top 10. So, um, there! :p

[B_Rik_Schitthaus]

Aha ! Animal Crossing WW is now third in the top 10. So, um, there! :p

Yep number 6 for 2 weeks now its in 3rd spot, good stuff.

[BJWanlund]

yes, the UK is blissfully neglected...

BJ