Remove Rights mangament

[ldean]

Hello,

I paid for a movie and downloaded it froma website. I am tring to burn it using nerovision.I keep getting a messgae that says unable to insert file. I think this is because the file has rights managemnt in it. Is there anyway i cna conver or remove the wrightsmanagement on the file. The file is a ASF file. I paid for the dam thing i should be able to make a backup of it.

thanks all

[Shane R. Monroe]

That is where you are wrong, my friend.

DRM means you have NO rights. This is why we all need to band together and stop this crap BEFORE it gets out of hand. Longhorn will be all about DRM - you won't own anything. You won't be able to back anything up. You'll be leasing it with no option to buy. This is what they want - to let you watch the content with their full control over it.

Be careful, your movie might erase itself after so many viewings. That's what the Paris Hilton apparently did. $50, 5 viewings. Ghey.

There are apparently some tools out there to crack CERTAIN versions of MS's ghey DRM. I don't know of any off the top of my head.

I will tell you that my personal opinion is; once you pay for something - you have the rights to have it in WHATEVER FORMAT YOU WANT. So, don't feel guilty about going out and getting a nice STRAIGHT MPG copy of the video and enjoy video the way God intended.... NOT in an MS DRM format.

Good luck.

[ldean]

Can you point me in the right direction to finding something that can remove this crap from my file. Example what should i be searching for on the internet that might bring up this crack. I dont support cracks and i am sur eyou dont either,Wink Wink.

thanks for your help

[Shane R. Monroe]

You'd be better off looking for a ripped copy of whatever movie you bought than waste your time trying to find DRM cracking tools that work.

The problem is - its a race; and Microsoft has the biggest, fastest car ($82 Billion dollars always ensures they are in control).

Everytime a DRM cracking tool comes out, MS adjusts the scheme, forces it into WMP, then tells all their developers using it "Your old crap don't work no more - if you want to continue to do business using DRM, then you WILL <waving hand> use this new scheme, or your movies won't play on anyone's machine with the updated WMP (which is everyone that uses Windows Update)." This has caused a BUTTLOAD of problems in the community too. Of course, no one blames MS for this issue. Apparently a bunch of game developers using some codec to play MP3 in their games had some issue where, after 'upgrading' to WMP9, the games would crash or the music wouldn't play. That's MS's flip flopping DRM putting the smack down on "unsigned" MP3 files. kthxfornothingms

So, the content owners do it. I think there are some 9 or 10 incarnations of MS's DRM package now; of course, any tool you find will only work on ONE incarnation.

Needless to say; if something has a WMV or ASF extension, I just pass it by (for pay - or not). Like Bryan said, "If its going to be that badly protected, I just don't need it." (or something to that effect).

Its getting worse too. All the new cable TV PVRs and such that cable companies are offering ... ALL crack down on the content. Everyone will have to go back to VCRs if you want to do anything with content anymore. You record a show on your cable PVR, the channel that broadcast the show will ACTUALLY be able to restrict what you can do with it AFTER ITS RECORDED! Think of this as: NO FAST FORWARD! NO TIME JUMPING! LIMITED VIEWS BEFORE IT EXPIRES! WATCHING A COMMERCIAL BEFORE PLAYBACK! Oh yeah - its all coming. They've already started some of this crap. Hell, there will be a way for tv stations to STOP YOUR PVR FROM RECORDING IT AT ALL! Think Monday Night Football.

And those things they DO let you record ... You can't do anything with it. No editing, no converting to MPG, no burning to disc. It sits on some proprietary box, in proprietary format, digitally encrypted beyond words - on some tiny ass hard drive that you cannot upgrade.

THANK GOD for the whitebox. Thank GOD for the ability to still work OUTSIDE the DRM box. I swear, if and when DRM takes over completely, and I can't do anything with anything, I'm getting the hell out of computers.

[classic_gamer]

Shane,

I hate to bring it up again. But one word will solve all the issues you are describing with the cable set top PVR. TiVo. I know you don't like their pricing situation but if what you are describing is true that may explain why they have not signed a deal with any of the cable providers. They are all about the end user. If the cable providers want all this control added into the software I'm sure that is why TiVo has been unable to get a contract finalized with any of them.

[Shane R. Monroe]

How is TiVO a solution?

Tivo uses proprietary formats. There is no 'non-hackable' method to get the content OFF and do useful things with it (and the hacks blow goat - I've read up on it - I was going to buy a hacked Tivo). And Tivo has their own 'screw the customer' issues going on. Did you read about the Tivo service in England? They actually record content you DON'T want, and make you watch it before you watch the stuff you recorded. Oh, and you can't delete it for like 30 days. Yeah, that solves it all ...

The real solution is the solution its been all along; whitebox. Thanks to brilliant companies like Snapstream (more in another post), we get FULL Tivo power with LOW end user cost and NO reoccuring subscriptions, no DRM, no pains. They can't stop everyone.

Tivo might have come up with the idea, but they aren't the best implementation. Replay HAD the right idea - Tivo without the fees - but they changed their model too.

[classic_gamer]

Tivo might have come up with the idea, but they aren't the best implementation. Replay HAD the right idea - Tivo without the fees - but they changed their model too.

This had come up in a previous thread. Replay was a different pricing model in that there was no subscription fee originally but their comparble unit cost $200 more than the TiVo, which at the time charged $200 for the lifetime subscription. So you get the same product for the same amount of money. It's very similar to the cable bill. It used to be very simple you got a bill with a price on it and you paid it. Now you get a bill with a price + tax + box rental fees + remote rental fees. Same price just more confusing for the customer. Wait a minute :oops: that doesn't seem to help my point out at all. Crap, wait I got it. Hey look over there is that David Crane. (classic_gamer exits quietly)

I was not aware of the issue in England with TiVo. That sucks totally. Does that happen with every time you want to watch a recording?

If so then it's a good thing I live in the states.

[Shane R. Monroe]

BAHAHAHA!

I posted a link on the old forums before I closed them. I might still have a link. I think it was a 'pilot' program in the UK - didn't make it here.

I've always said "I'd buy a Tivo if I could record and schedule without paying extra". Unfortunately, unlike Nintendo, they didn't listen to me.

Snapstream is AMAZING. I'll post a proper review in another post.